a simplified offense?!?!?

[shakitup]

 
in fridays paper, i read the article that quoted chan and herm talking about simplifying the offense. how much simpler could it possibly get? they were talking about doing it to accomodate brody croyle. if your qb can't play, then they can't play. dumbing down the offense will not win more games or make your qb not make mistakes. this is just another example of the ineptitude of the chiefs management and coaching staff... sickening, isn't it?

[Bodhisatva]

Simplifying the offense MAY imply that they intend to remove plays that are not necessary in the play book. It does not necessarily mean hey are lowering their standards, but may just be eliminating plays that Mike Solari never called anyway.

I will simply say this; a team that can run three plays to perfection does not need a play book. Execution is far more important than play selection.

[True Chiefs Fan]

I saw that too and was shocked... Bod is correct, but the reality is that it's impossible to get to the big game with 3 plays. I know Bod was using hyperbole to make a point, but I think that, based on last year it cannot be any simpler and effective.

I don't know if Herm is the idiot, or he thinks his players are, or he thinks the other teams are too stupid to figure out what to call each down. Surprise is a necessary element for success in today's NFL.

I am with you Shakeitup. It's going to be a long, ugly year again.

[Bodhisatva]

I suppose what I meant to imply was; they may be removing a lot of excess in the playbook. We cannot judge Chan Gailey based on Mike Solari's ridiculous play calling last year. For all we know, they have a 300 page play book and Chan thinks it is too much for the players to keep track of. Just because Solari ran a three play offense does not mean that Chan is cutting us down to two plays. It just means that Solari only had one page of the play book. XD

[Phog]

in fridays paper, i read the article that quoted chan and herm talking about simplifying the offense. how much simpler could it possibly get? they were talking about doing it to accomodate brody croyle. if your qb can't play, then they can't play. dumbing down the offense will not win more games or make your qb not make mistakes. this is just another example of the ineptitude of the chiefs management and coaching staff... sickening, isn't it?

Not only yes, but h**l yes! Again, I am playing mr. negative but I remind all to remember the name of this site. I know Solari caught a lot of crap last year but honestly, does anyone REALLY believe that a certain head coach's fingerprints were not all over that offense? I know, it was the line! Yeah, and now he has had three full off seasons, three full drafts and one decent O lineman taken through it all and I am giving him that even though he is a rookie and hasn't played a single down! I have asked this before and now again; What EXACTLY in Herm's resume leads anyone to believe he knows what he is doing as a head coach? Record? Stats? Division titles? Playoff victories? What?!!!! 

I can already hear the apologists at the local AM stations blaming Vermeil for yet another awful offensive outing this season. I suppose he secretly drafted Brody Croyle, Tank and Turk(a couple of real impact rookies eh?), and Medlock the wannabe kicker. If this season goes like I think it will, especially offensively, can there be anyone left in K.C. who will defend this brain trust at Arrowhead? Sorry guys. I am NOT a supporter of Marty ball but he took a 4-12 team and led them to 8-7-1 his first year, and only won a fist full of division titles thereafter. This guy is no Marty.

[shakitup]

okay, today's paper contains another quote from a chiefs coach that just makes you stop and laugh. this time it was chan gailey, and this is a quote: "don't label me a genius."  AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! if he wasn't dead serious, i would have fell out of my chair... again, later in the article we hear the same old hermism: "we are going to run the ball. thats what we are going to do. we aren't going to fool anybody. this is not a magic offense." again, AHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!! thanks to the chiefs coaching staff for providing such great entertainment, although the onfield performances will not be anything but laughable, it'll be so bad that its not even funny. but for now, we can watch moe peterson, larry edwards and shemp gailey manage the team... roflmao!!!

[Bodhisatva]

okay, today's paper contains another quote from a chiefs coach that just makes you stop and laugh. this time it was chan gailey, and this is a quote: "don't label me a genius."  AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! if he wasn't dead serious, i would have fell out of my chair... again, later in the article we hear the same old hermism: "we are going to run the ball. thats what we are going to do. we aren't going to fool anybody. this is not a magic offense." again, AHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!! thanks to the chiefs coaching staff for providing such great entertainment, although the onfield performances will not be anything but laughable, it'll be so bad that its not even funny. but for now, we can watch moe peterson, larry edwards and shemp gailey manage the team... roflmao!!!

I will not in any way defend Herm at this point. As I have always said, I like the guy as a VP of personel, but not a coach. Maybe a DC? In any event, I think I took Chan Gailey's statements as more humble than anything else. He wants the team to know that things are not just going to click into place. Every single one of them will need to work hard to make the team work. You may mock him for it, but I call that leadership. To translate for you, he said, "I do not make this offense work. You do. None of us can do this on our own. We have to work hard to get what we want.. and what we want is NOT 4-12." Chan's statements actually give me a lot of hope. I like this guy.

By the way, he keeps referencing a power running game with play actions. Anyone else remember DeBerg and Okoye? DeBerg with his amazing play action and Okoye's intimidating run. If we can get Croyle to have HALF the play action DeBerg had, we'll be in amazing shape. DeBerg has been called one of the greatest play action passers of all time, and the only one I ever remember that could actually fool the cameramen.

Also, did anyone catch some of the things going on with Larry? Did he finally grow up and step up to the plate as a leader this team desperately needs?

[Phog]

we are going to run the ball. thats what we are going to do. we aren't going to fool anybody. this is not a magic offense."

Real inspiring stuff eh? I have always said Solari took too much heat for last year's mess. I thought Herm didn't "change" anything on offense when he got here? I seriously doubt that Shemp Gailey is stupid or incompetent either but that was the knock on Solari that all the apologists gave at the end of the year. None of the local media guys would really just unload on the head coaching staff for the debacle.

but for now, we can watch moe peterson, larry edwards and shemp gailey manage the team... roflmao!!!

Henceforth, any and all references by me to the management and coach will use Shak's new names. I find them apt.

[shakitup]

i uderstand where your coming from, bod. deberg was a master of misdirection. but remember, those teams  were built by marty. herm had little to do with it. another thing that gailey and herm have in common is this: both have had qbs knocked out of games repeatedly, and both have ran their hbs into the ground. chan got aikman lit up with concussions leading to his retirement, and ran emmit like a tired dog in dallas, while herm got pennington lit up in new york,came here and got green knocked out(which by the way, ring or not, trent should retire, two concussions in two years is too many and not worth the risk) last year, down goes larry, then down goes kolby... brody gets knocked around pretty good... the pattern hasnt' changed

[Bodhisatva]

i uderstand where your coming from, bod. deberg was a master of misdirection. but remember, those teams  were built by marty. herm had little to do with it. another thing that gailey and herm have in common is this: both have had qbs knocked out of games repeatedly, and both have ran their hbs into the ground. chan got aikman lit up with concussions leading to his retirement, and ran emmit like a tired dog in dallas, while herm got pennington lit up in new york,came here and got green knocked out(which by the way, ring or not, trent should retire, two concussions in two years is too many and not worth the risk) last year, down goes larry, then down goes kolby... brody gets knocked around pretty good... the pattern hasnt' changed

I will definetely agree that last years offensive play calling was uninspired.

However.... Dallas is a bad analogy. Emmitt was beat up like a dog because of the mediocre back that he has ALWAYS been. Daryll Johnston's retirement was the real downfall of Emmitt, NOT any coaching changes. Daryll was arguably one of the best blocking backs of all time, in my book, second to Sam Gash. But in all reality, it is not the coaches that get QBs hurt, it is the line, it is the backfield blocker and it is the receivers that don't get open. Add all of that up along with a QB that holds on too long... and you have an injured QB. For last season, I think Brody getting beaten up rests more on his inexperience and a faulty O-line. The offensive system they are trying to establish DOES work, but it requires certain key components and chemistry. Chan appears to be working on that. I like the way he is trying to lead the team. I will not say I am hopeful to see immediate success. I will say, that with the current thinking process, it is feesible in the next two seasons. If we finish worse than 4-12 this yeare though, expect a serious coaching revamp. I will admit, that I myself would LOVE to see a bad season this year. Get some early draft picks and see if we can get a better coach.

Would I rather see an innovative new OC instead of Gailey? Most definetely. Who didn't love seeing Al Saunders at work? But looking back, the teams I loved the most were Marty-ball smash mouth teams with stellar defenses that one extremely close games in the final minutes. Steve Deberg, Christian Okoye and the gross Defense in the early 90s. Marcus Allen, Joe Montana, Tamarick Vanover, Derrick Thomas, Neil Smith, Dan Saleamua and Albert Lewis. Lets not forget the amazing Nick Lowery who won us almost as many games as Andre Rison in the final seconds. Those are the teams I remember most fondly.